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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: Grant Kearney on January 11, 2013, 10:26:33 PM

Title: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: Grant Kearney on January 11, 2013, 10:26:33 PM
Something has fallen off my Frisky and I am not sure what to do.  Perhaps I was braking a little too hard ?
Know any good welders  ???
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z184/rumcars/100_4873.jpg)
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: john Meadows on January 11, 2013, 10:31:53 PM
Just paint it Grant it will be OK

John
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: Grant Kearney on January 11, 2013, 10:42:40 PM
Thanks John, do you think zinc primer followed by a top coat of cold galvanised would make
a strong enough repair  ???
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Post by: super-se7en (Malc Dudley) on January 11, 2013, 11:42:41 PM
I will have a spare front end chassis available if it is any use. email me grant.
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Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on January 12, 2013, 02:22:35 AM
That bit you've soldered on near the middle looks good.
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: richard on January 12, 2013, 08:28:04 AM
Some speak highly of hammerite - it would at least get you through the mot
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Post by: Big Al on January 12, 2013, 08:43:10 AM
Is this the result of another darned fungus imported into the country along with Dutch Elm, Ash Die Back etc? Now we have Chassis Shagg. Otherwise its metal Termites.
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: richard on January 19, 2013, 11:09:23 AM
following all the useful advice to Grant i wonder could the members advise on how to free the Bruetsch steering rack - otherwise the Heinkel one will be used . shame as i like originality where i can . or indeed does anyone recognise what other car uses this system ? almost certainly german mid 1950's
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: Jonathan Poll on January 19, 2013, 12:29:11 PM
WD40 and blowtorch (not as the same time, unless you want to make a flamethrower!)

Otherwise, maybe try rust removal via electrolosys, but I'm not sure if it does that type of thing...

Could always try soaking it in diesel for a month?
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: Big Al on January 19, 2013, 02:58:21 PM
The expensive but best penetrating stuff I have found is Wurth Rostoff. This tends to be a trade product so you might need to get a chum with a garage to buy it. It is 10 times as good as things like WD40. It is more expensive and I keep it for special situations. Ultimate attack is a day or so of working Wurth in then into the vat of diesel for a few weeks. Most things move after that, though really noshed piston/barrels and such where there is electrolytic corrosion and/or damage are often to resistant to move without force.
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: richard on January 19, 2013, 03:04:29 PM
a warning here ! the question was tongue in cheek , like Grants . there is absolutely no way this is ever going to unsieze this has become i piece .
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: Jonathan Poll on January 19, 2013, 04:46:44 PM
a warning here ! the question was tongue in cheek , like Grants . there is absolutely no way this is ever going to unsieze this has become i piece .

Worth a go though!
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Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on January 19, 2013, 05:41:03 PM
A drop of war time lard on either end loosens things up quickly
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: john Meadows on January 19, 2013, 10:46:40 PM
so true, but I hadn't thought of trying it on car parts......
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Post by: Stuart Cyphus on January 19, 2013, 11:28:21 PM
 Not for nothing do they call you the Frisky Man eh John.... ;)
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: Big Al on January 20, 2013, 08:53:49 AM
a warning here ! the question was tongue in cheek , like Grants . there is absolutely no way this is ever going to unsieze this has become i piece .

Oh yea of little faith. I have rebuilt a Goggo 400cc engine that was buried for 14 years in a Dutch bog amongst other nasty looking corroded lumps of machinery. It sold very well.
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Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on January 20, 2013, 12:37:26 PM
Getting a bit off topic, but this reminded me of a story about a buried Harley I came across a while back.

http://justacarguy.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/harley-davidson-liberator-ww2-buried.html (http://justacarguy.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/harley-davidson-liberator-ww2-buried.html)
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Post by: richard on January 20, 2013, 12:40:57 PM
you are off topic though !


well i never !
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Post by: Bob Purton on January 20, 2013, 01:43:24 PM
Great story! Shame it wasnt a Brough!
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Post by: cuscus47 on January 20, 2013, 07:30:58 PM
The expensive but best penetrating stuff I have found is Wurth Rostoff. This tends to be a trade product so you might need to get a chum with a garage to buy it. It is 10 times as good as things like WD40. It is more expensive and I keep it for special situations. Ultimate attack is a day or so of working Wurth in then into the vat of diesel for a few weeks. Most things move after that, though really noshed piston/barrels and such where there is electrolytic corrosion and/or damage are often to resistant to move without force.

The penetrating oil that I have immense success with is Kano-Lab's Kroil.  Expensive again, but just a few drops, a little tap in an hour, and things come loose.  If they do not then repeat again.  It is amazing. If it doesn't work then the heat is the only alternative.  Never tried it on pistons/rings, but may work.  Even on surface rust if it sits, then with some wet/dry 600, things sparkle.
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: Big Al on January 21, 2013, 08:46:01 AM
Never heard of that one, Ian. Maybe restricted to the Americas. There used to be an excellent Plus Gas product but it seems to have disappeared. THat smelled the similar to Wurth. Better than using light fish oil!
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: AndrewG on January 21, 2013, 03:47:12 PM
A guy I worked with who was a proper curmudgeon (which in this one instance I think is a good attribute) reckoned that diesel was the best freeing agent of all and his speciality was old boat trailers so some of those have rust that borders on an art form.  He thought Plus-Gas was like round-ended scissors - ideal for children and those of a sensitive disposition.

I've never tried diesel but keep meaning to.  I can't see why it would work better than dedicated freeing oils, but it might - curmudgeon-approval does not come lightly.
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: Jonathan Poll on January 21, 2013, 04:22:30 PM
A guy I worked with who was a proper curmudgeon (which in this one instance I think is a good attribute) reckoned that diesel was the best freeing agent of all and his speciality was old boat trailers so some of those have rust that borders on an art form.  He thought Plus-Gas was like round-ended scissors - ideal for children and those of a sensitive disposition.

I've never tried diesel but keep meaning to.  I can't see why it would work better than dedicated freeing oils, but it might - curmudgeon-approval does not come lightly.

And diesel is way cheaper than all of the spray cans of WD40 stuff!
Title: Re: Frisky Problem, any suggestions ?
Post by: Big Al on January 21, 2013, 08:06:21 PM
Diesel has the ability to creep into gaps like a light oil. It only works if used to soak really. The idea of treating an assembly with an expensive proprietary treatment and later putting it in the vat of diesel is more to keep the expensive stuff moist while in reasonable concentration to do its stuff then expect the diesel itself to do the important penetrating. Lesser, might come apart bits' or not so rusty things, I pitch in just as it does no harm to take a chance or make a job easy. Cheaper than lots of fish oil given interesting names and codes like WD40. Each product has its place of merit.